220 swift, and my buddies use their custom. The idea is GREAT for a “Walking Around” Prairie Dog gun. I saw my first MVP at Gander Mountain today for $579 and I am hooked. They have all been turds! Even the SKS design is better then anything we have seen from the US Domestic OEM inthe last 20 years in Semi Auto designs intended to be marketed to hunter’s.Īny idiot can design and build an expensive rifle but what we really need is a solid non-bolt action semi-auto that can accept real hunting rounds including belted magnums for well under $1000 say no more then $600……… I am sure I will have to wait for China to take over the manufacturing world before I can hope to have anyone in the firearm industry lesson to common sense and do something innovative. Personally I think Remington and Mossberg and all the other late to the show interlopers that are now coming out with AR based weapons are really pathetic! What rock have they been under for the last 20 years while people have been showing up at Camp Perry and at Deer Camp with AR’s? To date no one has built a semi-auto hunting rifle that is worth a darn. 338 Lapu etc…….Make it a 1 MOA gun with factory ammo and sell it for $500 that would impress the heck out of me!!! It has to be durable and monkey proof say M1 Grand Meets Dragonav and has offspring that are accurate and built like tanks and cheap to build and sell!!! How about they give us a semi-auto rifle that can accomadate 30-30, 7.62×39, 338 Win Mag or. If they manage to build this one right then how come the other products are not as accurate? Third if you are going to put the word Varmit in a rifles model name you had better show up with something that is at least as good as Savages Varmit Rifles, Rugers Varmit Rifles, Remingtons Varmit Rifles etc…….Some how I doubt that anything Mossberg builds is going to be a 1MOA gun out of the box for a 5 shot group let alone a 30 round magazine worth…….LOL If their ATR 100 and 4X4 is any indication those are Minute of Deer rifles not Minute of Angle rifles….You do not build Yugo’s as in the short lived car’s in the 1980’s then all of sudden decide to build Roll’s Royce’s……A good manufacture will only have one standard of quality fit and finish not tiers of quality and precision of fit and finish so I have doubts about this rifle. 223 or 5.56 does a person need? Seeinghow you can buy upper to no end mail order for your AR you can have your light wight plinker, heavy Space Gun or play GI Joe with your version of a M4 all on one lower. Ok my take on this is “How accurate is it out of the box?” seeing how much accuracy you can wring out of the AR platform you have to stop and ask why a bolt gun?
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